July 23, 2007 by frenchflush.

Hello: what about thoses kind of situation:

Blinds 100-200 - We are after the flop

Player A Bets 1000

1- Player B didn’t realised that (while watching a lovely waitresse with music on his ears) throws 200 on the middle (saying nothing) …?

2- Same situation but B throws 600 (if it change something!?) …?

3- Same situation but B just say “check” …?

Your solutions?

TY in advance! 

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July 17, 2007 by jojo_gregorio.

Player No. 6 went all-in after the turn card was shown. everybody folded except player no. 2 who called the all-in bet. Player no. 6 showed her cards (had a full house) and player no. 2 just looked at her cards and dropped it face-down beside her chips. Dealer then burned a card then showed the river card. Player no. 2 then showed her cards with a higher full house. Player no. 6 suddenly said that the cards of Player no. 2 should have been mucked and she (Player 6) should be declared the winner because player 6 mucked her cards! What will your decision be?

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July 10, 2007 by frenchflush.

Hello,

Even if I don’t pretend (at all) to have the final word & solution on the following cases, I like to have a straight technic to find the solution QUICKLY … because I have to work with it NOW … and I don’t have the right as TD to look confused in front of the dealers & players! 

BUT: I’m open to all the pro advices & I stay able to change my mind and to change the rules solutions … BUT ONLY BETWEEN TWO EVENTS: SURE NOT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ACTION! LOL!

Here they are (waiting for your advices):

1) Heads up at the river: A bets - B goes all-in - A shows immediatly his cards saying “I think I won” (strong hand but not the nuts) - Immediatly B shows his cards showing a strong but loosing hand THEN REALISE THAT PLAYER A NEVER TOLD HIS BETTING and he (B) calls for the floor!

For me: the fault his on B: he should have call the floor WHILE HIDDING HIS HAND and asking for A to be penalised for “showing his hand” and to force him to make a clear CALL or FOLD (wich I would apply as floor). But BECAUSE B SHOWS HIS HAND TOO: I will still put a penalty on A BUT the hand must be finished that way (so I suppose A will declare a CALL for sure!).

 2) (similar & conclusion of the gringer-nguyen case) Heads up at the river: A bets 500 - B says clearly “raise” - the dealer makes an error and says “call” - so immediatly A shows his hand (any good hand but not the nuts) - B calls for the floor & ask for his rights!

For me: even if the big fault his on the dealer (he sure should apologize): like the rule of the killed hand (by a dealer) I think it’s the own player to FOLLOW THE GAME and not to be fool by nothing & nobody! So for me B MUST raise (because he annouced it) BUT CAN RAISE FREE from the minimum (1000) to the maximum (all-in)!

3)  Heads up at the river (a pot around 500): A bets 500 (pot size) then immediatly answer to a phone call (still sitting at his place) - the dealer kills his hand immediatly (before any move from B) - (point: don’t blame my dealer: they are very straight on this and I support them!) - B pretends to win all the pot plus the last 500 and they both call for the floor!

For me: I apply the same rule as the accidental killed hand rule: B wins the pot but because the last bet of A (500) had not been yet payed when the dealer made his decision: A can recover his 500!

Any opinion?

GG 

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July 7, 2007 by thepole.

before getting familiar with TDA rules I had situation as follows:Players A,B,C.Player A goes all-in.playerB says”call” and throws his cards face up in the pot.Player C folds after seeing the cards.My decision was  player B forfeits all his chips to the pot and his hand is dead.At that time we had  rule that says “exposed hand with action pending will be considered dead”(all players are familiar with it though).What should have been done?

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