September 29, 2007 by frenchflush.

Hello,

Strange situation:
Blinds 100-200 … everybody fold … the SB says “I raise” … but before he can announce the amount the BB says clearly “I call” (!) … so the SB says “all-in” (wich is around 10000) … and the BB (with also a stack around 10000) says that he wants now to fold because he tought that the SB only wanted to make a basic raise of 400 because he was so long to give the exact amount !?!

I know maybe most of the floors would have obliged the BB to pay the 10000 but I didn’t: I told the SB to choose between only raising 400 (the minimum) wich would oblige the BB to pay it or to raise any other amount wich would give the BB the choice between folding or calling (sure not reraising!)! Plus I gave a WARNING to the BB!

My argument: the BB was “out of turn” (the SB player had not completely finished to play: the amount was missing!) so the BB player can change his decision if the situation change with a bet or a raise! And I think the raise of 10000 clearly changed the situation!!!

Your opinion?

GG

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September 18, 2007 by Steve_Piper.

I host a $100 buy-in 40-person NL holdem tournament at my home twice per year.  I’ve got enough space for five 8-person tables, equating to 40 players.  Players start out with $3,000 in chips, with blinds starting at $25/$50 going up every 20 minutes.

Last time, I had 43 people wanting to play.  I decided to allow the additional 3 people to register as “Alternates”, allowing them to enter the tournament during the first hour only (first 3 levels) in the event players get knocked out during that first hour.  It turned out that exactly 3 people got knocked out during the first hour, enabling all 3 Alternates to play.

When the Alternates joined the tournament, they each started with $3,000 in chips.  One player felt that I should have somehow reduced their starting chips before entering the tournament to be fair to the original starting players remaining.  But I argue that these three Alternates are already being (slightly) penalized because they’re entering the tournament with $3,000 in chips when the average chip stack is $3,077 after the 1st person got knocked out, $3,154 after the 2nd person got knocked out, and $3,231 after the 3rd person got knocked out. 

Should I have somehow reduced the starting chip stacks for these three Alternate players joining the tournament during the first hour?  I can certainly understand blinding them off if they were “late” players with chips waiting for them at the table.  But that’s not the situation I’m talking about here.

If you do feel these Alternate players should have started with less than the $3,000 starting chip stack, then please recommend how you would have determined how much to remove from their starting chip stacks.  Thanks, in advance, to all those who reply. 

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September 6, 2007 by frenchflush.

Hello,

High Stakes Poker Saison 4 Episode 1 Part 3:

River - Phil Laak with the best hand bets 10000 on a pot of 14000 - Todd Brunson watch him then suddenly makes a quick forward-backward movement over the table with the amount of the call in his hand (to look for a reaction?) without calling - no reaction - he folds - Phil wins the pot but complains immediatly, asking for the forward motion rule of the room ?!

RRs: it’s binding only in limit games !
But: some casinos also apply the rule to the pot-limit & no limit pokers (That’s what says Phil) !
RRs: in no limit it’s not binding but any abuse must be punished !

I would’nt oblige Tod to call the 10000 but would give him a warning for abusing of this right !

Your opinion?

GG 

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