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November 8, 2007 by frenchflush.
Well, to make a conclusion on the counting (unpleasant situations I experienced with my dealers as TD with very unsportmanlike players):
A bets 13575 (counted & annouced by the dealer) … his stack is around 100000
B raises all-in at 47325 (counted & annouced by the dealer) …
A wants the dealer to tell him the difference he has to pay to call BEFORE taking his decision !?!
IMPORTANT:
1- In one hand the organisators of this finale table wanted the stacks to be very big for the show (pictures & vidéos) so there where a lots of chips around (even the short stacks) making the counting hard for everybody.
2- But in the other hand the player A (and some others) where really not nice: critisizing everything & my poor dealers & asking quite everytime for the differences of amounts BEFORE taking his decisions! His main argument was the during the EPT (european poker tournament) the dealers did ALLWAYS give the 3 amounts: the first bet, the raise & the difference (still not sure they really did it)!
SO: does my dealers are definitively OBLIGED TO ALLWAYS COUNT THIS DIFFERENCE BEFORE THE PLAYER’S DECISION (imagine the waste of time?) ???
GG
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November 8, 2007 by frenchflush.
Just to check: I made a comment on the previous post “ruling question” and it appears if you click on the post but it still says the “no comment” under the original post ? … is it a matter of time?
GG
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November 8, 2007 by brossignol.
Here is the deal:
Final table in a NL Texas Hold’em tournament. 3 players remaining, blinds 2000/4000.
Button calls 4000
SB calls 4000
BB raises to 6000 all-in
Dealer tells Button it will be 2000 more to call
I rule that BB raised, but not a complete raise and that Button must call 8000 (4000 more) and will be able to take back 2000 if SB doesn’t call or it will create a side-pot between Button and SB if SB calls.
This created some discussion and then I was not sure about the ruling as BB could not make a full raise which would not reopen the betting to Button and SB which means they could not raise. But, Button and SB were not betting at that point, they were simply calling.
So now I am totally lost. =)
Help!
Posted in All-In Bets; Re-Opening Betting, Side-Pots, Split Pots, Bets, Min Raise, StringBet, Fwd Motion, Act Out-Of-Turn | Print | 3 Comments »