January 26, 2008 by lincolini.

Dealer deals, first player to act raises, so action has occured. As this point the player on the button notices he only has one card. In this case the floor ruled that there was no reason not to give the player on the button his second card, and contine as normal. However, a player at the table was sure his hand is technically dead. I think the floor knew this, but simply decided in the friendly environment, there was no reason not to correct the simple error. My question then is this: what the floor right to allow the second card, and more interestingly, if they hand hand been declared dead, should the dealer burn an extra card, so that we have the natural flop turn river?

Posted in Official Rules & Guidelines, General, Fouled Hands, Chaos: Sloppy Mgmt of Tables & Tournament, Mucking, Dead Hands, Etc, Dealer Errors, Bad Flops, Etc., Misdeals | Print | 5 Comments »

January 25, 2008 by Sonny.

Here is a situation that occured, how I ruled, and some arguments that ensued.

During a NL hold ‘em tournament that I run, this situation occurred, and I was called. By the time I had gotten there,  it was more of an ethical question.

Situation:

          2 players remain in the hand after the turn card. Player A, bets 1500 (blinds are irrelevant to this situation) Player B goes in the tank.  While B is in the tank, another player at the table, but not currently in the hand, asks A, “Where are your cards?” A realises that at some point in the hand, his cards had been mucked, they are in the muck pile, mixed with cards, no stray cards on the table anywhere. Player B immediately calls, and claims the pot. No players dispute the outcome.

However, this debate happened. Player A and the player who asked about the missing cards, were discussing the fact that until he pointed out that A’s cards were mucked, Player B may have folded. If Player B had folded to A’s raise, then it was discovered that A had no cards, what happens to the pot? Can a player who has no cards win the pot? And the 2nd question was, should the other player have said anything, while B was still deciding? Did the other player have an ethical obligation to point out the missing cards, or should he have let B decide before making it known?

Here is my thinking.

1) It is A’s responsibility to protect his cards, as soon as B calls his bet, the hand is over, B is the ONLY player with live cards, and the entire pot should be his.

2) If B folds, A should be given his turn bet back (since it was not called) but the pot should go to B, since he still was the last player with live cards. This should be pointed out IMMEDIATELY after B folds.

 3) The player who noticed the missing cards, was obligated to point out the missing cards, but should have waited so as not to influence any player still to act.

Any suggestions?

Posted in Fouled Hands, Etiquette, Behavior, Play Procedures & Penalties | Print | 3 Comments »

January 21, 2008 by dc_rocker.

Hello folks,

I’m the TD in Brazil and I have a question for all you experienced directors out there.

Last week on a regular tournament, a player was sitting out (he bought-in but couldn’t show up) and as the blinds increased he eventually became all-in on the big blind. The blinds were 600 - 1200 and he had 500 total. The table folded to the small blind.

The thing is, should his hand go to showdown with the player on the SB or is he automatically dead? Let’s analyse.

When all-in, all hands involved have to go to showdown, right?

And if a player is not at his/her seat when the last card is dealt, the hand is dead, right?

Thanks,

D.C.

So, how would you rule this?

Posted in All-In Bets; Re-Opening Betting, Side-Pots, Split Pots, Showdowns & Pot Awarding, Mucking, Dead Hands, Etc | Print | 5 Comments »

January 18, 2008 by Michael Diaz.

Ok heres what happened, preflop, UTG goes all in , next player calls and everyone folds and all action is complete,  do they have to show their cards before the flop, turn and river to a showdown? also; who turns first?

am asking cause i saw this happen in a casino nearby  and they didnt show their cards till river….  ?????? am so lost here.

Posted in All-In Bets; Re-Opening Betting, Side-Pots, Split Pots, Official Rules & Guidelines, General, Showdowns & Pot Awarding, Etiquette, Behavior, Play Procedures & Penalties | Print | 5 Comments »

January 18, 2008 by Legion Designs.

I’ll try and make this as simple as I can.

Blinds are 100 & 200. It goes around with a couple of callers. Before player 7 can act, player 8 throws 500 in. Now since player 8 acted out of turn, his chips are dedicated. I let player 8 know his chips are dedicated, and player 7 (who loves to be difficult), raises the original BB to 400: 100 less than player 5’s dedicated chips, but still a valid raise.

How should this be handled? Do I keep player 8’s extra chip? make player 7 raise to 500? What would happen if BB wanted to reraise? Keep in mind, the SB and BB haven’t acted yet.

Posted in Bets, Min Raise, StringBet, Fwd Motion, Act Out-Of-Turn | Print | 2 Comments »

January 18, 2008 by Legion Designs.

Here it is: I’m a dealer for one of our local bar leagues. I have been doning this for about 3 years. I have run a “simple” 30 man tournament, with no issues. One of my players is wanting to do a 100+ person tournament.

I guess my question is this: Is there a book or ANY kind of information I can get that will help me direct a large tournament? I’m positive I have the ability and know-how to run it, but it’s better to be safe than sorry.

Any help is greatly appreciated.

Posted in Official Rules & Guidelines, General | Print | 1 Comment »

January 16, 2008 by frenchflush.

Hello, I think I know quite everything (quite) now about the killed hands thrown in the middle faces down or returned in front of the player faces up … but I still have some doubts about he cards thrown in the middle faces up:

1) What about a player wanting to call a last bet and throwing first the cards faces up in the middle BUT FORGETTING TO SAY SOMETHING and while getting to his chips to pay being said FOLDED by … let say the dealer or the opponent or any floor … ???

2) Or what about a player throwing his cards in the middle faces up (to show his max hand for exemple) thinking he won and reaching for the pot while in fact HE DIDN’T NOTICED HE HAD BEEN RAISED?

(thoses 2 actually happened) …

TY

GG

Posted in Fouled Hands, Official Rules & Guidelines, General, Chaos: Sloppy Mgmt of Tables & Tournament, Mucking, Dead Hands, Etc, Bets, Min Raise, StringBet, Fwd Motion, Act Out-Of-Turn | Print | 2 Comments »

January 12, 2008 by Michael Diaz.

Ok here is the situation in a tournament, two players left in the river PLAYER A bets 700 and PLAYER B is thinking, While PLAYER B were thinking, PLAYER A folds his hand Out of turn.

Whats the best ruling for this situation?

Posted in Fouled Hands, Official Rules & Guidelines, General, Mucking, Dead Hands, Etc, Bets, Min Raise, StringBet, Fwd Motion, Act Out-Of-Turn | Print | 2 Comments »

January 10, 2008 by Maccapacca.

As many opinions as possible please….

Sadly, the tournament director at my local tourney is nothing short of an idiot. He is of the opinion that any player arriving late to a tournament, whether it be half an hour ar an hour, has an advantage over the players already in the tournament from the start.

As you can imagine this caused me to nearly bust a blood vessel when I heard him spout such nonsense. But, in order to pool thought i ask you all this question…

Is there an advantage to a player arriving late for a tournament ?

Posted in Official Rules & Guidelines, General | Print | 2 Comments »

January 10, 2008 by Maccapacca.

Opinions please…should it EVER be the case that a player is forced into making FOUR forced bets out of FIVE hands due to a tournament director not understanding how to break tables effeciently ?

Posted in Seating & Moving Players | Print | 7 Comments »