April 15, 2008 by LeScribe.

I don’t remember if someone told about that before in the blog…

During last September WSOP-E, in the Empire Casino, a player on the left of Annette_15 steals one of her chip that she pushes accidentally when applausing a great call against Kenny Tran.

 You can see it around 2′30 in this video :  

http://www.pokertube.com/ShowMovie.aspx?movieID=f6f4ea21-8a26-4b11-a4a1-d143c5babb37&comeFrom=Search&StartPage=1&pIndex=1&PageView=0&FreeText=World%20Series%20Of%20Poker%20Europe%202007&OrderBy=Latest

So, what is the possible penalty to give to the stealer ?

Is it possible to give back the chip to Annette_15 at this time ? Who could say exactly which value was the stolen chips ?

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April 15, 2008 by 52cartas.

Hi TD’s:

Last weekend I had my very first important tournamet with 3 different events and more than 300 participants in total, the Marbella Classic Poker, here in Spain.

I wanted to be sure I made the right decisions by asking you…

First situation:

We are on the river. Player A bets and B calls but A doesn’t realize about it and thinks the other guy folds so he throws his cards, passing the line. Inmediately he realizes that he is still in the hand and takes back his cards. Player B complained because cards had passed the line but I gave A the chance to play the pot which was finally won by him, as I thought it was an accidental fold and he realized inmediately and cards didn’t touch the muck nor the chips. Wrong or right decission?

Second situation:

Pre-flop. Player A limps in and B goes all-in. A asks for a chip-count and the dealer counts less than the real amount so A calls and shows his cards, moving the amount declared by the dealer through the line. Player B suddenly declares that he’s got more chips and that A hasn’t complete the bet, that A has folded his cards and the pot must be won by him (he still hasn’t showed his cards). Then A says that he will complete the bet anyway, moving the rest of his chips into the middle. B continues complaining, claiming the pot and shows pocket jacks, A has pocket kings. How I proceeded: I gave the call as good declaring A winner of the pot and busting out B as he had less chips but penalized A for showing his cards out of turn. I did so because I wasn’t present at that table when all this happened and I had to ask the dealer to explain the whole situation… Wrong or right decission?

Moving players:

Can a player moved from another table, to balance them, be two hands without play? I picked him from the u.t.g. position in the original table but, the available seats on the other table were just between the big blind and the button so, to preserve the order of the original blinds in that table he had to wait two hands to play…

Deal and chops:

Does exist any program or software to calculate the deals by chips at a final table? How do you proceed with them (the deals)?

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