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Archive for September 13, 2008
Asking to see a mucked hand. When is it too much?
September 13, 2008 by dc_rocker.
Hello folks,
Situation: Play goes down to the river. Player A bets and B calls. A shows his cards and B throws in his hand on a clear intention to muck a losing hand. Another player on the table who was dealt in asks to see player B’s hand.
The fundamental question here is: when is asking to see anybody else’s hand an abuse?
Etiquette aside, if both hands went to showdown, technically any player who was dealt in can see the hands that were involved on that showdown. So when would you deny that right to a player? When is it an abuse? Being that such a valuable informtion during play, can it really be denied?
I wanna hear your inputs.
Thanks,
D.C.
BSOP - Brazilian Series of Poker
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How do you rule on these WSOP verbal situations?
September 13, 2008 by ChicagoMike.
Watched the 2008 WSOP 1st day this evening and saw a couple interesting situations involving no less than 2 champions… how would you rule here?
1) JOE HACHEM. Joe is contemplating a bet on the river that’s been checked to him. He’s got a good but not great hand and by rights can think he’s best here… so he starts mumbling… [paraphrasing] ”I don’t feel good about this…. I think I have the best hand…. I’m just not sure…. I have to bet…. I’m just not sure… ” Hachem doesn’t make a bet right off at that point, continues to contemplate his situation…
How do you rule at that point, has he committed to a bet or does this verbal rambling leave him an out?
2) JERRY YANG. Yang has a fair hand but there’s a large bet to him. After a bit he starts mumbling… “…I can’t believe I’m laying this down…” but he doesn’t release his cards, just sits there contemplating….
How do you rule at this point ?
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