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December 9, 2008 by Bravo228.
Rule #8 states that A player must be at his or her seat by the time all players have been dealt complete initial hands in order to have a live hand. Players must be at their seat to call time. So with that in mind, what does At Your Seat mean to you as a Tournament Director? To me, it means the player must be sitting in their seat. That way, there is no confusion as to what At Your Seat means.
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December 2, 2008 by frenchflush.
Hello,
During a tournament a player stand up and declare he is leaving and will not come back (for personnal reasons) : we retired his chips from the tournament … right?
GG
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September 22, 2008 by coldtalk.
Cash game. Player take a seat immediately after the big blind and post a live blind. We had a few confusion about when is his turn to act, will it be immediately after the big blind or should we skip him and ask him the last to act. IMO thinking that we should follow the normal turn but recently had some discusion about entering in the game and possible advantage of that player position.
Next question is how many live straddle bets is allowed and optional in game.What if someone objects about placement of 4 or more live straddle bets.
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September 9, 2008 by khalade.
Hello All,
My question is pretty simple but I wanted to verify my information before I passed it along. If a person has begun a tournament or bought into the tournament persay, and they play a few rounds but then have to leave the tournament what happens to their chips? For example, if they had to respond to an emergency and couldn’t finish out the tournament how should they officially be handled?
Thanks,
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August 7, 2008 by talisman.
Hello All,
First post here and would love some insight…Do other poker rooms have a specific rule that covers players being at the table for the duration of a hand to be eligible to win a pot?
Scenario — No laughing now….(cash game 5/5 NL 100-500 spread)Player A allin preflop with 9d10c called by Player B with KcKs. Pot size is about $200.
Both hands are tabled and dealer deals flop (lets say rags 2d 5d 5h) at which point Player A decides he cannot win and leaves the poker pit, and then the casino (exit is close by)…
Unobservant dealer is not even aware that the player has left, deals the turn (a diamond) and the river (another diamond)…and then ships the pot to Player B at which point it is noticed there are 4 diamonds on the board and the raggedy Player A 9d10c wouldve won the pot!
We have no specific Poker rule that states what happens but there is a Poker etiquette policy (which may or may not have any legal standing)which states players must be at the table for the duration of a hand to be eligible to win the pot.
We do have a get out of jail rule which says “In the event that a situation is not covered under the rules of Poker, then the casino managament will make a fair and equitable decision that protects the integrity of the game of Poker.
So Question……Who would win the pot?? Does a casino have a responsibility to keep the money that “wouldve” been won by Player A and make every effort to locate him.
Poker Supervisor decision was to give the pot to the only eligible Player at the table in this case was Player B even though he had the losing hand per se…The argument was that Player A had abandoned his hand and therefore any chance of winning the pot and soon as he left the Poker Room (of his own accord)
Thanks for any insight…
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August 6, 2008 by frenchflush.
Hello (the day I send you too much situations … just let me know! lol!),
Here is another balanced table situation:
Last 5 tables of a tournament (so balancing tables when a difference of 2 players)
Previous hand: seat 1 Button - seat 2 SB - seat 3 free - seat 4 BB - seat 5 UTG …
Seat 4 (BB) is eliminated … the only free seats at this table are then seat 3 & seat 4 …
A player arrives to balance …
Well … seat 2 Button (for sure) - seat 3 (the new player but SB or not?) - seat 4 free - seat 5 BB (right?) …
I know: (TDA rule 25: In flop games when balancing tables players will be moved from the big blind to the worst position which is never the small blind) … but why here? Why not make him pay the SB knowing that he just escaped from paying the BB at his previous table and that he will have a full round to wait for the next BB here?
GG
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July 18, 2008 by JustinFromTulsa.
We all know that players that come from a broken table can assume any position at their new table but here’s a situation that comes up from time to time that I have never heard a concrete rule about.
Table #1 has 9 of 10 players left. Button is in the 10 seat, seat 1 is the SB, seat 2 is empty and seat 3 is the BB. Seat 3 goes broke and we break some other table. New players, from our other broken table, fill in the 2 and 3 seats. With the button in the 1 seat we have the following options:
seat 2 is the SB, seat 3 is the BB, and seat 4 is UTG again, or
seat 2 sits out, seat 3 is the SB, and seat 4 is the BB like he was supposed to be.
One option is easy and the other is more true but will get some grumbles from some players. Which do you prefer?
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May 19, 2008 by frenchflush.
I know you will think: “what a big mess” but this situation really happened in a big club (used to host the WPT): the “Aviation Club de France” and during the “Grand Prix de Paris” (link here : http://www.aviationclubdefrance.com/home_uk.html).
OK to make it simple: after a Break they close a table … player A (with 25000) find a ticket sending him to a new place with 50000 … A just seats & start playing … he plays 4 hands during wich he eliminate player X (famous) wich had let’s say 40000 … player A have now 90000 … then player B is coming back (late but it’s his right) from the break and claim for this seat (in fact the organisators really made a mistake with the ticket of A: he should never have been moved to this 50000 place wich really was the place of B) … the three players (together with X) call for the floor (poor man lol) … after half an hour of decisions: PLAYER X IS DECLARED ELIMINATED (I agree) - PLAYERS A&B ARE SENT TO THEIR ORIGINAL SEATS (25000 & 50000) but on TV nobody understood what became the 40000 of benefits … we understood it was divided between A & B (???) … On my opinion: I WOULD HAVE RETIRED THE 40000 FROM THE TOURNAMENT (X would be eliminated but A could’nt get profit from a move made with another one’s stack!)!
Any idea?
GG
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April 13, 2008 by dsbartolo.
I’m a Dealer i have a situation that i believe needs assistance: Every Wednesday we have No Limit Holdem in our 6 Table Poker Room. When we get the second game players on first table are always concerned whether they are going to make the 2nd table a feeder game into the first game that begun. Floor man are usually never consistent with there rulings. Usualy if the second table goes they will make the first table 10 handed then start the next one, but you never know with the players. Sooner or later the main game will get short handed with no board and the 2nd table will be full. Yesterday they began this Must Move on the Second Game in to the Main Game but we had husband and wives and players who enjoyed there seats in the 2nd game and did not want to move…..floor man said its must move……it got a little out of hand that players from 2nd game just left instead of moving …..one left cause she would be playing on same table with husband……… etc……what would you suggest would be a better outcome to solve this issue…..thank you for your time……….
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February 25, 2008 by frenchflush.
Hello,
Do you agree if: A is button / B is SB / C is BB … B is eliminated … X is arriving because of a closing table (not to balance) … B seat is the only seat free … X seat there and I make it:
X is button / C is SB / D is BB !
For me there is no reason in this case to have X wait for the button to pass BECAUSE PLAYER “A” ALLREADY HAD DURING THE PREVIOUS HAND THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE THE BUTTON (and to play at the best position).
In fact if B was still there, A, C and D would be now in this same situation: A as cut-off, C as SB and D as BB!
So X takes is seat and immediatly plays as the button BECAUSE IT CHANGES ABSOLUTELY NOTHING FOR THE OTHER PLAYERS!
I ask that because so many people used with this internet eternal sentence “a new player can’t play immediatly at button or small blind” …
Your opinion?
GG
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