December 11, 2008 by MrVickers.

We had this happen in our room and I would like to know what the correct decision should have been.  As the dealer was bringing out the turn card it bent on the table in such a way that it somehow sprung off the table and onto the floor.  Would this card still be live?  What would be the ruling if it were one of the flop cards or river cards?

Thanks

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November 19, 2008 by PurePoker.

Hi Guys,

been an avid reader of this blog for quite some time and thought I should post a couple of questions that I have run into over the last couple of months.

Guy in middle position declares All-In and places his remaining chips (about 10 pieces) on top of his cards and moves them towards the middle over the betting line. Guy on the Dealer button calls, Big-Blind calls as well, both have more chips. The bets are collected and the flop is layed out. While BB considers his options, suddenly the person all-in says: “Where are my cards?” The dealer realizes he has mucked the cards, because they layed on the wrong side of the betting line.
How would you rule?

Somebody on the table folds his cards so strongly, they fly into the cards of another player. The dealer cannot identify whoch cards where folded.
What is your ruling?

Somebody is playing aroung with his chips, holding a large amount in his hand. Suddenly he drops the chips in his hand and the fall into the stack of his neighbor. It is not possible to identify which chips belong to which player.
What should the TD do?

Thanks,
Denis
Pure Poker Lounge

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November 16, 2008 by DJ.

Is there a TDA rule that specifies how a shuffle should be done.

I know the industry standard is riffle(x2) strip(x3) riffle, then box. Is it written anywhere ?

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November 5, 2008 by coldtalk.

Tournament.Player A raise preflop 4000 chips on blinds 1000-2000. Only one player calls.The flop come out A,Q,4 and player A goes all-in 13 000. At the moment no floor or TD is present,and player B says that he is not folding and opens his cards holding AK. Player A makes a facial expression like : a great hand, a strong one. Immediately after that Player B says I call, but few other players objects and there is a bit confusion for dealer is that call by the rule and A opens his cards holding AQ. How to solve this situation?

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October 30, 2008 by thornny.

pls help,  came to the end of a hand,  two players left in hand,  each had the same hand,  easy  huh?? split pot??  then one player discovered he had been dealt three cards.  what happens???

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October 17, 2008 by davethedealer.

This situation came up in a tournament i was running last night. It was the last hand before the break.  Self deal game so no house dealer. Just as the break had started Player A who was the dealer, said he had just awarded the pot to Player B, but just realised that he should have won the pot. Player A said he had KJ and Player B had J2 and that the board was 329 J 9. Therefore Player A should have won with 2 pair and a higher kicker.

Both players cards were turned face up at showdown. But Player A thinking he’d lost mucked all the cards and the board, although they didnt get mixed with the remaining stub. As the next hand hadnt started i felt i should try and reconstruct the hand in the best interests of the game. I worked out what the pot was  and figured if i could be 100% sure what the board was ,and that Player A had KJ and Player B had J2 then Player A should be awarded the pot. As in the rule  cards speak etc.

In the end i awarded the pot to Player B who had J2 because only one other person at the table would confirm that Player A had KJ. Either the other players at the table hadnt noticed what happened or didnt want to get involved.

I do believe Player A had KJ ,but without the other players at the table speaking up i felt i couldnt award him the pot without being 100% certain. I feel i made the correct ruling but id be grateful for your comments.

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September 29, 2008 by al_78.

Situation came up the other day. Dealer thought there was no one left in the hand and awarded the pot to player A ,not realising there was still  player B with cards. All the cards were mucked except for player B’s. It was said player B’s cards were not in full view as he had his hands over them. Who gets the pot?

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August 17, 2008 by lnufnu.

I was dealing a rather large Texas Hold’em tournament the other night and I ran into a huge mistake that I made.  The scenario was as follows:

Blinds were 25-50 (rather early in the tournament).  Player A (seat 9) was under-the-gun and has pocket Queens and raises to a total of 300.  Player in seat 10 folds and Player B (seat 1) calls (Player B has pocket 7’s).  Everyone else folds and player in seat 8 says to Player A, “Oh, you won the pot!”  I, as the dealer, listening to what player in seat 8 said and totally forgetting that player B had called, moved all the chips to player A and threw all the remaining cards into the muck pile.  Player B says, “Hey, I called.  Why did you throw the rest of the cards into the muck pile?”  Realizing I had made a huge mistake and that legal action had already taken place I took all the cards, including those that were in the original muck card pile (since there was no way that I was able to determine what cards were what), re-shuffled, and brought out a burn card and the flop.  The flop included a 7 and Player A’s Queens were cracked.  Player A went all in and, of course, Player B called.  Player A was eliminated from the tournament.

Was I correct, regardless of human error?  If not, please tell me the correct way to correct this “MAJOR MISTAKE!!!”

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July 29, 2008 by g3rt.

hell0!

 first i’d like to apologize for my bad english, my native language is swiss german, i hope, you can understand me.

following scene occured yesterday night in a single table sng:

it was self-dealining. the dealer threw one player’s holecard face up. Someone said ’Let’s make this the burn card and continue dealing’. No one objected. But after the deal was complete, the dealer didn’t put the face up card on the top of the deck - he left it face up on the table. During the the pre-flop betting round nobody requested to put it on top of the deck, so that it could take its function as a burn card.
At the end of the preflop round, the dealer burned the top card and started dealing the flop when several players yelled out:”stop, you must not burn a card”. they wanted to discard the third flop card and put the burn card face up. I said, that everything is alright the way it is, because the face card wasn’t on top of the deck, so it wasn’t a burn card. therefore the dealer is right to burn another card.
everybody besides the dealer disagreed with me.
later on, i found out, that they do it always like that. they just call the misdealed card a burn card, but they don’t use it as one, they keep them face up one the table. I think this is so, because almost nobody seems to actually understand why the top card of the deck has to be burned.

my question is: was it still right to claim that the top card should be burned? what do you think about this situation?

An answer would be very appreciated, as I’m still rather irritated.

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July 8, 2008 by hobbit56.

During a no limit cash game I was asked to see a folded hand. The request came from a 2 players not invoved in the hand. I ruled that since they were not in the hand they could not ask to see the other players cards. After my ruling the other player left in the hand asked to see the cards to which I agreed. Afterward one of the original requesters stated that the rules had changed recently and I should verify whether my ruling was correct. Since I have not heard and can not find anything anywhere else I would appreciate any input. Thank You.

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